Wednesday 29 July 2015

"Kathy - Billy's alleged rape victim ".

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Subject: Fw: " Kathy - Billy's alleged rape victim ".
 

I am coming out loud and proud and declaring the following:
1. I am an Aussie white bloke of European descent!
2. I am heterosexual!
3. Although non religious I tend to believe in the so-called Christian values/belief!
Sir Mike's Comments 29/07/2015.
Subject: " Kathy - Billy's alleged rape victim ".

Teflon Billy Shorten - the Federal Labor Union & Opposition Leader plus alleged rapist.

Well people what a stirring lot of Polly waffle! Motherhood statements ! futuristic unfunded
Polly promises ! which I believe only a well-honed ! well trained ! Union Leader like Teflon
Billy Shorten can deliver and mate did the ABC Radio and Radio National give it maximum
coverage - especially their very favourite subject of " Gay Marriage "!!! mate they
are getting pathetically desperate to keep it front and centre and as a listener to both I find
that a day rarely goes by where at least one section gets to bring up the subject of
"Gay Marriage " in some way or other??.

Mark Scott AO - MD - ABC

Just as a side issue for the moment in regard to gay rights I was so pleased that the Kenyan
President Uhuru Kenyatta put the most powerful man on earth in his place the like's of
President Obama in regard to Kenya's gay rights record and good on him because let anyone
stick their nose into USA affairs and see the aggressive reaction they get!

However ? when we consider the extreme poverty, large slum areas no electricity or running
water or sewerage, the lack of decent education and a very poor health system etc; in Kenya
? how is that for gay political power and muscle where they have such an influence and a
hold over a American President that someone like Obama is prepared to risk an international
incidence and interfere in another countries sovereign affairs over a very minority group who
have certain sexual preferences???? way over the top in my view!!!.

President Obama.
 

President Kenyatta.

Anyway I digress - let us continue to discuss Teflon Billy Shorten and what were some but
the main points Teflon Billy discussed in his speech.
 
Asylum Seekers - Well we all know what a disaster Labor made of protecting our borders
when they were in power allowing some 50,000 illegal entrants into this country via boats
where we are now left with a bill of many billions - yes billions - caring for them and we
should concern ourselves with that when these funds are required for Aussies where we
have problems from the cradle to the grave that need urgent attention and funds!!

The Labor Party at this conference were very divided especial over turning back the boats
which we know works and should be a concern for the Aussie nation although the people
smugglers would be preparing the boats in advance of a Labor Party win at the next federal
election??.

Tax. Hitting the wealthy ? those who earn in excess of some $300,000 PA to pay more tax
where some 35% of their total income was mentioned?

What a pipe dream!!! the wealthy have always down the centuries been able to pay less tax
one way or the other compared to the average plebb and no previous government in Aussie
- the Whitlam mob tried and look what happened to him/them - has been able to take on the
wealthy - which includes many of our past Prime Ministers still alive I might add who thanks
to the Aussie Tax Payers are very well off - and win!!

Put pressure on the wealthy they just move their money and assets offshore!!

Gough Whitlam - Ex Aussie PM

Gay marriage - This Labor mob is just as divided on gay marriage as the general community
and there is no doubt that Teflon Billy wants the issue sorted out in this the Abbott mobs term
in office and consequently the Labor Party has allowed a conscience vote for Labor because
apart from that lefty/commo Tanya Plibersek the Labor Party Deputy Opposition Leaders
Sydney inner suburbs centric yuppie voters gay marriage will not go down well with the
Labor voters out in the Western & Southern suburbs and certainly not with country voters
so Labor does want to go to an election promoting gay marriage as a policy!!.

Tanya Plibersek - The Lefty Labor Deputy Opposition Leader.

Carbon Policy - Labor - excluding the coal mining unions - agreed to a target of 50%
renewable energy by 2030?? with no target for even 2020??

We have to ofcourse keep reminding ourselves when pollies tell us what is going to
happen (15) years from now that all the current mob of pollies will be well and truly retired
enjoying their very comfortable Tax Payer funded superannuation plus free travel,
entitlements etc:.

Teflon Billy Shortens power base as well the Labor Parties major financial backers are the
Aussie Unions and therefore less Union Members less membership fees and less political
and financial power!

Therefore lets look at the Aussie Coal Industry according to the Mineral Council of Australia.

1. The Coal Industry contributes some $60 billion to the Aussie economy.

2. Employs some 54,000 with another at least 145,000 in related employment therefore some
200,000 in total.

3. Therefore we can only imagine what the revenue those wage packets in their various
communities generate across the board and that is apart from the direct and indirect Tax
revenue generated??.

4. Australia has the fourth-largest share of proven coal reserves in the world. Australia has
110 years of black coal and 510 years of brown coal. Coal benefits all Australians through
its contribution to exports, wages, investment and tax revenue. It is Australia's comparative
advantage in coal - together with iron ore - that has enabled Australia to sustain the longest
period of continuous economic growth in the nations history.

Therefore if you believe that a Union Controlled Labor Party is going to allow the lose 10's of
1000's of union members and their financial contributions to an alternative mainly non
unionised industry where the main components ie; solar panels plus electronic parts for wind
farms are being produced by the like's of China currently and with our wage structures, long
service, superannuation, environmental and work place rules and regulations makes us
uncompetitive then you naively believe that the moon is made of cheese!!
 
Even if we accept that the redundant miners are prepared to be trained to install alternative
energy equipment – assuming they can stand heights and feel safe walking over roof tops
and climbing 100’s of feet or metres in the air – once those jobs run out ? what then ? how
many needed for maintaining equipment that is supposed to be so tough and resilient and
stand the riggers of time and be guaranteed for say 10 – 15 or more years ?? not many I
would suggest.

Therefore if ? this 50% energy target is achievable by 2030 - ? who knows I doubt I will be
around - then it wont be a Union Controlled Labor Party that institutes this program!! it is
just not in their interest financially or otherwise!!

Alternative forms of energy in themselves when relying on the good graces of Mother Nature
who has a definite mind of your own in regard to wind, sun and even hydro - even without
taking so-called ' Climate change ' into consideration - is unreliable and will need base load
back up and if not coal by at least say gas??

However the Greenies and their mates don't wont gas mined either so ? what then??

Good old (Aunty) the ABC keep rolling out the pro alternative energy experts - as they do with
pro gay marriage - no agenda broadcasting " BULL SHIT !! " - and we had one on Radio
National this afternoon discussing ? modeling this ? modeling that? and that it is only going
to cost a few billion here and there and if we go to 100% renables say by 2050 - 2060 it will
probably put up the cost of electricty by say another 25% on top of todays prices and he felt
sure people would willingly - or words to that effect - pay an extra say $2-300.00 PA to save the
planet in the next 50 - 100 years??.

People every time I here an expert - and in my now 75 years I must have heard- read 100's of
their prophecies ? most if I recall turn out to be wrong and/or just figments of their
imagination - the words " Cane Toad " springs to mind? and as such rarely in my view have
they any or little grasp of the reality of the real world?? and that constant battle the existing
Aussie plebbs have keeping rooves over their heads, fed, clothed and just to survive on a
daily basis without the belief that experiencing martyrdom to save the planet 50- 100 years
from now in regard to global warming is worth while and where these so-called " Experts "
and lefty Greenies will be long gone therefore cannot be held to account in regard to their
predictions of " Doom & Gloom " which might sell books but have incurred a totally
unnecessary cost on the average plebb who can least afford it !!

I have said it before and I will continue to say it because you don't have to be Einstien to
figure out that whatever Aussie does or does not do in regard to " Climate Change " will be
like a " Pimple on a Elephants bum " and as such will have little or no consequence world
wide even though the climate mob and their agenda keep stating that our polution
percentage is one of the highest in the world??

Well ofcourse it is we are a modern industrilised nation however we have one of the smallest
populations on the planet ie; 23,000,000 so percentage wise just by shear averages we must
be high but to use that to increase our costs unnecessarily to the average Aussie plebb
because some group of so-called " Experts " by using their computers modeling - the modern
day " Crystal Ball " - is forcasting " Doom & Gloom " (50) years from now and by tightening
our belts we guarantee to save the planet is way over the top and should be stopped because
it is concerning - worrying people unnecessary because life is far to short as I am discovering
as I accelerate towards my used by date.

In my view there has not been one decade of my life where someone or group has not
predicted " Armageddon " yet most of them are now long gone and have or are feeding the
worms and I am still typing this ?? what does that tell yeah?? bloody experts most are not
worth feeding - life is common sense nothing more nothing less!!!   
 
Women in parliament - 50% gender equality by 2025?.

Well very laudable I am sure and ? why not ?? however they are not taking into account what
the voters want and from my experience many voters - especially women voters - prefer male
candidates? I guess only time will tell ?? but then why wait (10) years a decade ? why not now?.
 

Kathy - Teflon Billy Shortens alleged rape victim.

Now people I am sure we are all aware that in Teflon Billy's and Kathy's home state of Victoria
there is currently a Royal Commission into family violence which is I gather the leading cause
of death - one per week currently - of women under 45 years - and where during 2013 - 14 there
were 65,393 family incidents reported to the Victoria Police.

Reference:

Prevent family violence.
Improve early intervention to indentify and protect those at risk.
Support victims.
Make perpetrators accountable.
Improve the way that Government and society work together.

The current Royal Commission into family violence is going back generations therefore my
question is how come Kathy - Teflon Billy Shorten alleged rape victim - can't get her day in
court because how more violent can the heinous alleged crime of rape be??

I believe it would ironical if Kathy and her friends turned up at a meeting where Teflon Billy
was speaking about violence against women and started to sing the song by Shannon Noll
quote " What about me " unquote.

On the 18th of March 2015 Nigel Hunt and Andrew Hough reported in The Advertiser the
following quote " Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide Philip Wilson charged with failing to
report child abuse by colleague in 1970's " unquote.

Now the NSW Police have charged this bloke not for committing the crime against kids but
for not reporting the fact which is bad enough but in my book not as bad as actually
committing the offence going back to the " 1970's" yet Kathy cannot get the Victoria Police
and Public Prosecutor to get sufficient evidence going back to 1984 where according to
Kathy the Victorian Police did not interview some of Kathy's witnesses or if they did it was
over the phone??
 
The Abbott mob are currently looking at spending over say the next (4) years some
$800 - 900 million dollars in front line services etc; to try and deal with domestic, family and
general violence against women but ? no mention of it by Teflon Billy?? yet spend hours
negotiating with the various Labor factions - especially the Tanya Plibersek lefty mob - in
regard to looking after the yuppie gay's but bugger the like's of Aussie women and kids that
are being killed/murdered/brutalised/terrified on a weekly basis!!
or
Let's concern the Labor Party Conference in a great discussion and debate about turning
back a bunch of illegal boat people but again bugger the like's of Aussie women and kids
that are being killed / murdered / brutalised / terrified on a weekly basis.
What a bunch of bloody hypocrites - especially the the lefty Tanya Plibersek mob!!

Aussie Army.

If we had one of our military personnel overseas in the various theaters' of war killed every
week there would be an almighty national out cry!!

The way I judge people is by asking myself " ? would I buy a used car from this person ? "
and as far as Teflon Billy Shorten is concerned the answer is definitely ' NOT!! '.

NRMA Road Service.

However people if it is ok with you then don't whinge when the NRMA Road Side Service will
no longer come out when the vehicle you bought from Teflon Billy continually breaks down.

Sir Mike Howe - but you can call me Mike.
 
 
 

Friday 24 July 2015

" What's yours is mine - What's mine is my own !! :

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Subject: " What's yours is mine - What's mine is my own! "
 

(Me at my place)
I am coming out loud and proud and declaring the following:
1. I am an Aussie white bloke of European descent!
2. I am heterosexual!
3. Although non religious I tend to believe in the so-called Christian values/belief!
Sir Mike's Comments 25/07/2015.
Subject: " What's yours is mine - What's mine is my own ! "

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece
  1. Greece
    Country in Europe
  2. Greece is a country in southeastern Europe consisting of 2 mainland peninsulas and thousands of islands throughout
    the Aegean and Ionian seas. It's often called the birthplace of Western civilization, and Athens, its capital, retains
    ancient landmarks including the 5th-century-B.C.E. Acropolis citadel and Parthenon temple. Greece is also known for
    its beaches, from the black sands of Santorini to the party resorts of Mykonos.
  3. Currency: Euro

 

 

  1. People I am in no way ostracising Greece alone for their very poor national management and the lack of good governance and duty of care over of their countries funds and assets because lets face it countries - including Aussie under successive governments - all over the world one way or the other are guilty of this and considering the ' Wherewithal ' that the governments have at their disposal - in Aussies case at all (3) levels of this over governed Nation of ours - such as massive resources in the way of computer systems and so-called - and very expensive tax payer funded - financial & strategic experts covering the full spectrum of a countries assets and liabilities then I believe the outcome - result is very amateurish to say the least and I reckon a bunch of Mum's who regularly work out the house hold budget could leave them for dead!!!!!!

    Now we have countries - governments local, state and federal, companies,organisations, individuals and the list goes on - where they borrow other peoples funds to keep them going financially so they can pay their bills etc:

    However they pay little attention to their liabilities and their ability to manage them because they believe in all sincerity that it is their Gods - ? which God ? take your pick! given right to enjoy a decent standard of living today and let the future take care of it's self??

    However as I am sure we are all aware that mess up in your life in any way shape or form and there is always a day of reckoning ain't there.

    Now as far as repaying loans of any kind is concerned we can with the like's
    of Greece who find that they are unable to meet their financial liabilities and consider defaulting on their loan repayment unless the lending institutions ? banks etc: are prepared to reduce the borrowers already signed and sealed commitment/liability by some ? 30% as in the case of Greece? or in many cases write the loan off - or at least part of it? - with the hope that in many cases
    the idea - as was with many International banks during the GFC - the loans are to large to fail and the ramifications of the failure would have such a great domino effect that the borrowers believe that the lenders have little choice??

    When ofcourse the lending body stands firm and insists that the borrower repay the loan in accordance with the contract/agreement and should they fail to do so legal and/or other action will be considered there is an almighty ' Hue & Cry ' by the popular press/media - especially by the lefty media like the Aussie ABC – in regard to what a bunch of rotten bastards these banks and lending institutions are to insist the loan be repaid and how harsh this will reflect on the people
    involved on the borrowers side.
  2. Mark Scott AO - MD - ABC.

    Well people I look at it this way:


  3. 1. Banks and public lending institutions of any kind - and I should imagine this would even partly apply with privately own family businesses - do " NOT " I repeat do " NOT " own those funds lent out to the borrower those funds belong to the customers that have in good faith either invested their funds in these organisations in the way of shares, term deposits, some sought of bonds and other securities or even just parked their funds for safe keeping and at the same time enable them to deposit any pay and/or other receipts and then in return use
    the facilities to pay bills one way or the other.

    Now these lending bodies/organisations have a very serious duty of care to - in most cases enshrined in law - protect these customers funds that have been put in their care for safe keeping therefore it is not the lending bodies and/or institutions that stand to lose - apart from the lose of employment should they for some reason close - by borrowers defaulting on loans but the investors plus the Mum's & Dad's and families, small and large businesses or anyone that has some sought of equity within these organisations.

    2. ? Do I have any sympathy for borrowers that default on loans?? Absolutely not!!! as far as I am concerned as a now retired business man of 75 plus I have over the decades - it is some what weird to get to the stage in life where you can actually talk in decades ? - taken out many both personal and business loansas well as having the use of credit cards available and I have " Never " defaulted on any of them no matter how tough things got financially even if I had to cut and juggle other areas because a good credit rating in my view is paramount to your overall health and wellbeing!! ? as the Greeks and others and ? maybe
    Aussie down the not so distant track - have found out!!?
    Oh yes I have heard many and various excuses - and that in my view is all they are - that things and circumstances are different now? I don't understand? that I am being too intolerant ? I should walk in their shoes and see what it's like? and the whinging goes on as if life started with them and their problems?

    As far as I am concerned ? if you spend more than you earn ? or if you
    ate/consumed more than you produced ? then the inevitable and inescapable will occur -  " Deficit !!!"

    In my view
    if you make a commitment - financial or otherwise- you and only you are obligated to ensure that obligation is fulfilled!!

    However I am of the old school where ' My word was my Bond ':


    Where a hand shake was as good as a written agreement and a ' Point of Honour !'

    These days " Oh bugger it! there is plenty more where that came from while we have mugs that are prepared to lend us finance ? why should we change
    our God given life style? we are entitled and what is more deserve to live the good life!! life is to short to concern our selves with such trivialities as spending other peoples hard earned funds and defaulting on loans!! bugger them they will get over it ? they have got plenty we are just helping to spread it around in a more and fair equitable manner!!!

    Yes people I believe the attitude of " What's yours is mine - What's mine is my Own "  is alive and flourishing across the worlds spectrum and at all levels of society where people " Use and Abuse " the system - especially our pollies where they are paid with tax payers funds a more than hansom salary and conditions yet the greedy bastards milk their entitlements to the fullest extent possible so is there any wonder the Aussie plebbs try to follow in their
    foot steps??

    I read some where that it is estimated that only about (2%) say 460,000 of Aussies out of say now some 23,000,000 that take the time to write to the pollies and let them know of their concerns therefore if you are one of the (98%) that don't give a shit enough to make the effort or even care where these amateur pollies are taking this great country of ours then don't whinge when we arrive at wherever that maybe and it is not to your liking???.
  4. Sir Mike Howe - but you can call me Mike.

     






     
     


     




     

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