" Ok where were the gay and lesbian voters??"
Yep ok Andrew Barr the Labor Treasurer and Deputy Chief Minister of the Australian Capital Territory plus an active member of the Labor gay and lesbian " Rainbow Wing" where was this " History Making " army of gay and lesbian voters that were going to get your Messiah Kevin Rudd over the line because Kevin Rudd had quote " A Personal Journey " unquote in regard to his view on gay marriage!??
For those of you that read my comments you may remember what I wrote on Thursday the 1/8/2013 which was as follows:
Subject: " NO WORRIES - THE TAX PAYERS PICK UP THE BILL!!"
People yesterday Thursday the 1/8/2013 I heard on Fran Kelly's show on Radio National ( ? where else people?? the ABC the tax payer funded gay/lesbian promotions department!! ) Andrew Barr the Labor Deputy Chief Minister of the Australian Capital Territory the member for Molonglo plus a very active member of the Rainbow Labor Wing spruiking the financial benefits to the Act economy if the federal marriage Act was bypassed and an Act for marriage equality - gay marriage! was passed in the Act and Andrew Barr estimated that at least 10,000 gay couples would take advantage of the opportunity?? I am sure the NSW/Tasmanian governments have the same hope in mind if they pass the Act as well?? we can only hope for their collective sake there are enough gays/lesbians to go around??
Then I went on to say:
Andrew Barr has been quoted as stating that the new pro gay marriage Labor Leadership team of PM Rudd - especially as PM Rudd has had a quote " Personal Journey " unquote in regard to his views on gay marriage ( what a bloody hypocrite !! that's me not Barr!! ) Albanese and ofcourse Wong will - in the view of Andrew Barr - get Labor over the line at the next federal election because of it?? I wonder what the other 98.5% of the non gay/lesbian and hetro Aussie voters think of that especially taking into account the " Marriage Equality" mobs own polling show that the over 50's Aussies - an ever increasing number population wise!! are not in favour of gay marriage!!
Well Andrew Barr we certainly found out what the other 98.5% of non gay/lesbian voters thought on election night 7/9/2013 didn't we???!!! and with that lame duck Greenie Adam Bandt completely side lined in the house of Rep's and the minority Greenies in the Senate even more marginalised and will no longer have the balance of power in the Senate as from the 1/7/2013!! I would say the almighty gay/lesbian voting power envisaged by you turned out to be a very damp firework indeed for just some of the following reasons:
1. The Labor Party Messiah Kevin Rudd the PM and federal Member for Griffith who in my view is an narcissistic! egotistical! person who had what was recognised as a fairly safe Labor seat of a margin of 8.5% almost lost his seat to the LNP who had a swing to them of 6.4%! Rudd only got 40.4% of the first preferences! down -3.7% and 53% after preferences down -5.5%!! with a myriad of senior Labor - and others - stating he should now leave politics because they can't trust him!! he has had his day they state!
Rudd is also credited with one of the worst and arrogant/lengthy valedictory speeches in the history of Aussie politics where he reluctantly mentioned that he had phoned Tony Abbott and conceded defeat but no mention of any congratulations?? how pathetic and childish!! a fine advocate for gay/lesbian rights you reckon Andrew Barr??? if so your standards differ greatly from the majority of Aussie voters even if we accept that hypothetically Rudd did better than Gillard would have???
2. We even had that union leader and gay rights activist NSW Labor Senator Doug Cameron in a large coloured profile smiling - from my experience with him the only time I have seen Cameron smile/laugh is when he has just put someone verbally down and/or he has said what in his mind is funny??- on his Facebook page holding up a well produced sign stating quote " Labor for Marriage Equality " unquote!! however maybe had Cameron held up a sign stating - Labor for the?? unemployed ? elderly ?sick and infirmed ? homeless ? the 10% of Aussies that are living below the poverty line - ie; 2,000,000!! the 90,000 that are fed by charities every night for their only (1) meal of the day!! then the federal Labor candidate for Macquarie,Blue Mountains,NSW a Susan Templemann - who I have met and have a lot of time for! and who Cameron as a resident of the Blue Moutains as I was for some 45 years! was spruiking for from a face to face and via the media point of view would not have been so soundly beaten by the LNP candidate Louise Markus - who I have also met and have a lot of time for! after preferences by some 8092 votes a swing to the LNP of 3.3% making it a some what safer LNP seat!!
I believe the likes of Cameron aught to get their priorities right and as a tax payer funded employee and not a gay/lesbian activist and union leader who both are and represent minorities and start caring for the majority of Aussies doing it tough!!
I realise ofcourse that appealing to the likes of Cameron an arrogant Scottish Union
organiser is a waste of time but as one of our NSW Senators until he is voted out then
we don't have much choice unfortunately!
3. Then ofcourse we have the federal 2013 election results and no matter what spin the likes of the Labor Party put's on it?? it was a disaster!! and regardless whether Kevin Rudd's Cut! Cut! Cut! negative campaign reduced the political carnage or not compared to Gillard it was still a disastrous embarrassment for Labor with the possible loss of 17 seats - down from 72 - 55 - no new seats acquired and at least 96% of the seats retained have had their margins reduced by half or less making them vulnerable at the next election??
People I am sure you are aware that the ABC - luv em! - started what they called
" Vote Compass " during the 2013 election asking voters for their opinions on a myriad of issues ie; gay marriage, euthanasia, abortion etc; and I considered it very professionally done and useful and I gather 1.1 million Aussies took part and there were safe guards I gather so you couldn't vote twice from the same I P address and once the data had been weighted in numerous ways it gave an effective sample of about 450,000 respondents.
There was a question or more a statement - " Marriage should only be between a man and a women ".
There were 52% that stated No! that's not right - in other words gay marriage is ok? it's a loaded question when discussing gay marriage in particular but let's leave it there!
There were 36% that agreed that YES! it should be between a man and women only!
With 12% who were neutral and did not care one way or the other??
However of the 52% - 32% were either between the ages of 18 - 34 years and/or unmarried so the question must be asked (1) what does anyone under 25 years know about life let alone marriage?? (2) how can any unmarried person make a judgment on the sanctity of marriage or otherwise having never experienced it???
Anyway no experienced pollie or political party would chance their political livelihood on 52% fore 36% against with 12% undecided ( total 48% ) especially when you read and take into account all the other results that were taken ie;religion, state, men/women, ideology, politics, etc; and the 2013 election where the (2) parties that promoted gay marriage such as the Greenies and Labor were dumped ie; Labor lost 17 seats - Greenies down (9%) in Tasmania their once home town/stronghold and 3.3% nationally plus they look like their going to get really hammered in the next state election?? however Labor/Greenies are so ideologically driven and politically thick that like lemmings they will continue towards the political abyss!!
Lets take the Act for instance where with a population of some 379,000 or about 1.7% of the Aussie population - not much bigger than a large mainland municipality?! - we have a minority Labor mob in conjunction with the lonely Greenie by the name of Shane Rattenbury ( alias the King Maker! ) are going to take on the other 98.3% or 22,627,000 - that's million! - and the huge cost to the Aussie tax payers as a whole - not just the Act mob - in regard to legal fees alone when- not if!! - their " Mickey Mouse " legislation is passed recognising gay marriage based purely on ideological grounds
?? or in the case of the Deputy Chief Minister/Treasurer Andrew Barr as a practicing
homosexual I believe because of self interest!!
Ok people if your part of the Aussie majority speak up because I don't know about you but I am very fed up of having too pick up the financial cost/tab for these minorities and at the same time being told to just shut up and cop it otherwise I will be accused of discrimination, racialism, homophobia, xenophobia and/or any other label they can attach to me??
Mike.
